Comments on: Hey That Ruler is Broken: I promise they are the same size! http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/11/06/hey-that-ruler-is-broken-i-promise-they-are-the-same-size/ "But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry that is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises." Hebrews 8:6 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:18:30 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Jim Pemberton http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/11/06/hey-that-ruler-is-broken-i-promise-they-are-the-same-size/#comment-4345 Jim Pemberton Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:55:14 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=1018#comment-4345 "tape your ruler together when you get a chance" I love that statement! The thing to remember is that truth is true no matter who espouses it and none of us has the corner on truth. In fact none of us gets it all right. Even the greatest theologians need to be double-checked. With regard to the different ways we have of respecting one person or another according to their deeds, Paul even does this. Compare the way he talks to Philemon with the way he addresses the Corinthian church and the sexual immorality there. Jesus seemed to do this with regard to Judas and the Pharisees. And what of Paul who was a Pharisee and Jesus took him and made him an Apostle. Paul persecuted the church before his conversion and became such that he reprimanded Peter who merely betrayed Christ. What's up with that? Experientially, the world doesn't make much sense. Could it be that stealing a cookie from mama's cookie jar is no less sinful than buying, selling, beating and killing slaves? Against God's holy ruler none of us stack up. So, the way we decide to handle sins, or even such as complimentarian/egalitarian policies, as a church is a matter of ecclesiology. One area of theology that may need some refinement is the point at which ecclesiology lends itself to sanctification - and that includes the idea that ALL of God's people, not just the "professional" clergy are to be full time ministers of the gospel no matter where we work. We have the truth in the scriptures, but we are still learning how it's supposed to impact the way we live our lives. “tape your ruler together when you get a chance”

I love that statement!

The thing to remember is that truth is true no matter who espouses it and none of us has the corner on truth. In fact none of us gets it all right. Even the greatest theologians need to be double-checked.

With regard to the different ways we have of respecting one person or another according to their deeds, Paul even does this. Compare the way he talks to Philemon with the way he addresses the Corinthian church and the sexual immorality there. Jesus seemed to do this with regard to Judas and the Pharisees. And what of Paul who was a Pharisee and Jesus took him and made him an Apostle. Paul persecuted the church before his conversion and became such that he reprimanded Peter who merely betrayed Christ. What’s up with that?

Experientially, the world doesn’t make much sense. Could it be that stealing a cookie from mama’s cookie jar is no less sinful than buying, selling, beating and killing slaves? Against God’s holy ruler none of us stack up. So, the way we decide to handle sins, or even such as complimentarian/egalitarian policies, as a church is a matter of ecclesiology. One area of theology that may need some refinement is the point at which ecclesiology lends itself to sanctification – and that includes the idea that ALL of God’s people, not just the “professional” clergy are to be full time ministers of the gospel no matter where we work. We have the truth in the scriptures, but we are still learning how it’s supposed to impact the way we live our lives.

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By: B. Manning http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/11/06/hey-that-ruler-is-broken-i-promise-they-are-the-same-size/#comment-4307 B. Manning Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:45:17 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=1018#comment-4307 LOL. I definitely remember that convo. We have had some great ones. I would never say that at 98% of churches in America... but Lifeline was not in need of another Bible study, we needed to engage the community better! Levi is doing well. The feeding tube is out and the doctors are encouraged by his progress. Sorry bro, your emails must have gotten mixed in with the flood. Let's talk soon! ~B. LOL. I definitely remember that convo. We have had some great ones. I would never say that at 98% of churches in America… but Lifeline was not in need of another Bible study, we needed to engage the community better!

Levi is doing well. The feeding tube is out and the doctors are encouraged by his progress. Sorry bro, your emails must have gotten mixed in with the flood. Let’s talk soon!

~B.

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By: lionelwoods7 http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/11/06/hey-that-ruler-is-broken-i-promise-they-are-the-same-size/#comment-4298 lionelwoods7 Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:55:29 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=1018#comment-4298 B Mann, How is Levi brother. I sent you a few emails. How is Vera and FBCG? Things going well? Maybe we can catch up when we have time. B Mann,

How is Levi brother. I sent you a few emails. How is Vera and FBCG? Things going well? Maybe we can catch up when we have time.

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By: lionelwoods7 http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/11/06/hey-that-ruler-is-broken-i-promise-they-are-the-same-size/#comment-4297 lionelwoods7 Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:54:39 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=1018#comment-4297 B Mann, You remeber this from anywhere: "I remember a few months back, I don’t know maybe 7 or 8 I wanted to get a bible study going at my church, really a man’s study. I was talking with a brother of mine and he said “Lionel you dudes don’t need to study the bible more, man go out and help somebody fix their car”. I thought to myself, “this brother doesn’t have a high view of the bible”. But then as time went on a month or so, I figured something out. He was right" B Mann,

You remeber this from anywhere:

“I remember a few months back, I don’t know maybe 7 or 8 I wanted to get a bible study going at my church, really a man’s study. I was talking with a brother of mine and he said “Lionel you dudes don’t need to study the bible more, man go out and help somebody fix their car”. I thought to myself, “this brother doesn’t have a high view of the bible”. But then as time went on a month or so, I figured something out. He was right”

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By: B. Manning http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/11/06/hey-that-ruler-is-broken-i-promise-they-are-the-same-size/#comment-4295 B. Manning Sat, 08 Nov 2008 05:18:32 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=1018#comment-4295 L, You have been KILLING it recently. Love this post... I enjoy eavesdropping on your internal battles. It is encouraging to us bro. Quote of the Day: "Philemon was in the Bible before 1964, right?" L,
You have been KILLING it recently. Love this post… I enjoy eavesdropping on your internal battles. It is encouraging to us bro.

Quote of the Day:
“Philemon was in the Bible before 1964, right?”

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