Any clarification from Daryl would be helpful and appreciated.

Seems like a very important topic that we should understand.

When we sin, do we sin unintentionally or intentionally?

Is a teaching that some sins are intentional and others are not a good teaching or a dangerous teaching?

I for one am glad that in Christ when I confess my sin I can presume that God is “faithful” and “just” to forgive my sin and to cleanse me from all unrighteousness-just like he did for David.

Praise the Lord!

Consequences for our sins? Yes indeed, that is a part of how God uses circumstances in our life as He conforms us into the image of His Son.

David’s life was never the same after his sin with Bathsheba, both for the negative but also for the positive.

We can notice that when David had yet to confess his sin, his response to Nathan regarding others “lesser” sin was one of arrogance and self righteousness and condemnation.

After confessing his sin, David’s dealings with others became more grace oriented. We also see that how he responded to the consequences of his sin, family tragedy, including being deposed from his throne for a time with gracefulness and humility.

As believers, we must come to the place where we see our sins in light of God’s grace and when we do we are able to extend that same grace and mercy to others.

We all know professing Christians who live behind a facade of self righteousness who are exacting and without grace towards sinners who are desperately in need of God’s grace.

People including us do not need what we deserve, we need God’s grace, and mercy and forgiveness for all of our sins that I maintain are all intentional and if we are honest with ourselves are presumptuous.

Perhaps I am just not seeing the point and intent contained within Daryl’s post?

Under the Old Covenant and the Mosaic Law, there was provision for offering sacrifices for unintentional sins. Most if not all of those unintentional sins had to do with food prohibitions or ceremonial uncleanness that occurred without ones knowledge. Example: Ingesting something being unaware that it was unclean or sitting on something that was made ceremonially unclean.

None of the dietary rules or cleanliness laws are binding under the New Covenant, so I am kind of with you.

Daryl-

What kinds of sins are committed unintentionally under the New Covenant?

Can you explain to us where you are coming from on this?

For instance, if I’m speaking with someone and I’m angry, I know (even if for no more than two seconds) that what I am about to say (or type, lol) is not right before I say it. I am fighting against it, but it has never been that I was unaware of at least the potential for the words to sting.

The only sins that I think we can commit unknowingly are when we violate those precepts that we have yet to encounter in God’s Word or when we cause offense to another believer unintentionally.

What am I not seeing here?

Are you saying that believers will not sin presumptuously?

-or-

Are you saying that believers who do sin presumptuously will be discipled by God as He promises in the book of Hebrews in order to get us back on track and as evidenced in the life of David?