Comments on: When Does 1=2? Only When You’re Using Dispensational Mathematics http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/05/20/when-does-12-only-when-your-using-dispensational-mathematics/ "But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry that is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises." Hebrews 8:6 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:18:30 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: djdesignz http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/05/20/when-does-12-only-when-your-using-dispensational-mathematics/#comment-1183 djdesignz Thu, 29 May 2008 21:32:39 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=247#comment-1183 Quite an interesting viewpoint... thanx Lionel! I Ain't Nobody! Quite an interesting viewpoint… thanx Lionel!

I Ain’t Nobody!

]]> By: lionelwoods7 http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/05/20/when-does-12-only-when-your-using-dispensational-mathematics/#comment-1182 lionelwoods7 Thu, 29 May 2008 20:45:17 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=247#comment-1182 It is only different if you are saying that the application of that verse is only for Jews. That is what it sounded like when you said: I believe the writer is speaking to Jewish Believers and in verse 8 explains that Christ’s priestly abode is seated in a heavenly tabernacle as administrator of a new (unconditional) covenant vs. the old (conditional) covenant. I believe that the Holy Spirit was speaking to all believers and that the application of this is what abolishes the Old Covenant (including the 10 Commandments) and sets up the New Covenant where both Jew and Gentile our made into one people and a new organism is formed which is the Church, thus "there is no Jew nor Greek" all who are in Christ is the True Israel. It is only different if you are saying that the application of that verse is only for Jews. That is what it sounded like when you said:

I believe the writer is speaking to Jewish Believers and in verse 8 explains that Christ’s priestly abode is seated in a heavenly tabernacle as administrator of a new (unconditional) covenant vs. the old (conditional) covenant.

I believe that the Holy Spirit was speaking to all believers and that the application of this is what abolishes the Old Covenant (including the 10 Commandments) and sets up the New Covenant where both Jew and Gentile our made into one people and a new organism is formed which is the Church, thus “there is no Jew nor Greek” all who are in Christ is the True Israel.

]]> By: djdesignz http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/05/20/when-does-12-only-when-your-using-dispensational-mathematics/#comment-1181 djdesignz Thu, 29 May 2008 20:09:02 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=247#comment-1181 How is that any different than the letters Paul wrote to Ephesian, Galatian or Corinthian Believers... weren't those letters only addressed to those Believers? Though that's not to say that the information in the letters aren't for all Believers which you already know. I fail to see the point of the question. The writer of Hebrews went to great lengths to explain what was a precarious situation for Jewish Believers. Wouldn't their situation be much different from the Gentiles in that Jesus... Messiah had been crucified? So now you're (the Believing Jew) torn between two worlds, the one you've known as a Jew (the Law) and the one of faith! I would think that's a little different than Gentile Believers. I don't believe I've insinuated that the New Covenant is only for Jewish Believers. I Ain't Nobody! How is that any different than the letters Paul wrote to Ephesian, Galatian or Corinthian Believers… weren’t those letters only addressed to those Believers? Though that’s not to say that the information in the letters aren’t for all Believers which you already know. I fail to see the point of the question.

The writer of Hebrews went to great lengths to explain what was a precarious situation for Jewish Believers. Wouldn’t their situation be much different from the Gentiles in that Jesus… Messiah had been crucified? So now you’re (the Believing Jew) torn between two worlds, the one you’ve known as a Jew (the Law) and the one of faith! I would think that’s a little different than Gentile Believers.

I don’t believe I’ve insinuated that the New Covenant is only for Jewish Believers.

I Ain’t Nobody!

]]> By: lionelwoods7 http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/05/20/when-does-12-only-when-your-using-dispensational-mathematics/#comment-1180 lionelwoods7 Thu, 29 May 2008 19:24:44 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=247#comment-1180 I also agree that it talks about our election in Christ but that election is based on a New Covenant. Christ says "this is the New Covenant in my blood". If that New Covenant is only for Jewish Believers we have some serious problems. I also agree that it talks about our election in Christ but that election is based on a New Covenant. Christ says “this is the New Covenant in my blood”. If that New Covenant is only for Jewish Believers we have some serious problems.

]]> By: lionelwoods7 http://blackandreformedministries.com/2008/05/20/when-does-12-only-when-your-using-dispensational-mathematics/#comment-1179 lionelwoods7 Thu, 29 May 2008 19:23:41 +0000 http://blackandreformedministries.wordpress.com/?p=247#comment-1179 So that would mean the entire letter is to the Jewish believers then correct. The letter is only addressed to the recipents of the letter thus you would have to say that all of it is addressed to them and every imperative in it ony applies to those Jewish believers correct? So that would mean the entire letter is to the Jewish believers then correct. The letter is only addressed to the recipents of the letter thus you would have to say that all of it is addressed to them and every imperative in it ony applies to those Jewish believers correct?

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